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Old Jun 12, 2009, 04:50 AM // 04:50   #21
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This has never been an issue for me - I store all my ZCoins value in Silver coins, there's absolutely no point in getting Gold ones before you get to 250 Silvers

But ZCoins shouldn't be inventory items in the first place!
For a plenty of reasons:

-They're not trade'able. If they were, it would be a reason to make them inventory items.
-They're not trade'able, yet huge masses of players are confused and try to buy or sell them, I keep seeing them every day.
-They always take 2 slots in the storage - completely unnecessarily - it's a waste.
-They cause extra unnecessary hassle with moving them between characters and storage

I'd say the Zaishen Coins should be removed entirely and replaced with something like Zaishen Faction - a single number to be stored for the account. I woulfdn't believe it was easier to implement 3 new kinds of items than adding a 4th faction bar, with a high fixed cap of say 100,000 (copper coins equivalent). Functionally there would be no difference, the minor gold sink connected with exchanging coins could be kept with adjusted small gold price tags on the zaishen reward items.
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Old Jun 13, 2009, 04:26 AM // 04:26   #22
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It would be easier to save 'Zaishen Credits' in a variable just lie Tournament points, and then getting ZCoopers by talking to Zehnchu. That way they won't take inventory space.
Yeah it really doesn't make sense that they take up inven space. We can't trade them so, like, whats the point? I need the storage space. I like your idea.
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Old Jun 14, 2009, 02:04 AM // 02:04   #23
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I really don't think converting your coins needs to be a gold sink. In my opinion, you should have been able to trade down from the release of Zcoins.
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Old Jun 14, 2009, 02:17 AM // 02:17   #24
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The point is, there is really no need for there to be any coins to convert in the first place.
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Old Jun 14, 2009, 02:31 AM // 02:31   #25
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The point is, there is really no need for there to be any coins to convert in the first place.
I think we're getting off topic here. The real issue is whether or not you should be able to trade down from gold and silver as well as up, because that is the current state of the game. I happen to agree it should be allowed. It only makes sense.
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Old Jun 14, 2009, 04:39 AM // 04:39   #26
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It's not off-topic. There shouldn't be any of this trading up/down nonsense. If you're asking for a change, anyway, you might as well go for the better option.
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Old Jun 14, 2009, 05:29 AM // 05:29   #27
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As far as anyone is aware, Anet might be planning on allowing the trading of Zcoins with the release of the PvP content they claim to be working on.

If this is the case then I definitely think the up-down trading system is the better option over having a 'Zaishen Faction.'

However, if Anet makes it clear that there is a 0% chance of the Zcoins ever being tradeable, then of course I'd want them to implement Zaishen Faction or something to that extent. Until Zcoins are tradeable or can be converted both up and down, they'll be a waste of 3 storage slots.
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Old Jun 14, 2009, 08:03 AM // 08:03   #28
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Excuse me but isnt useless waste of storage items the main reason ANET can sell the new Storage Panes?

Back on topic..
agree if it cost you 2 silver coins to break up a gold, or something like that.
How about you can expert salvage kit the Z-coins with a percent chance of loosing the coins.

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Old Jun 14, 2009, 09:02 AM // 09:02   #29
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125,000 copper = 50 gold (I'm probably wrong). You get like 15-25 copper for basic NM zquests. I don't see the need aside from making it easier for lazy people. Hey wait a minute!

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